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Forum: Complete Madness Going on in JAUCP
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Hello. I am User:.旻 in JAUCP. Complete madness currently prevails(which you can also see from the behaviors of User:Muttley here in UnMeta). Recently, as you can easily see from the logs of JAUCP, the admin user Muttley continues to block almost ALL IP and account users(including 3 admins(!) and me, which is described later), with identical reasoning of: 'sock puppet of LTA:XYZ'.

Even if you do not understand Japanese and cannot follow details of what is going on in JAUCP, I believe that you think you have to do somthing about it. If you have difficulty concerning the tower of babel(i.e., language), then I am ready to support and help your investigation.

Althogh I cannot conclude that no LTA that User:Muttley asserts exists, and it is probable that vandalists from JAUCP is doing something in JAUCP or here, but more serious problem is User:Muttley, his behavior.

The problematic behaviors of User:Muttley can be said to be the consequence of:

blocking users without clear explaination, labelling them as sock puppets of an LTA(recently XYZ), talk reject against users whom User:Muttley assumes to be a sock puppet(e.g., here), and completely blocking talks and emails.

Even before being dismissed of admin in 2013(here), he fights against the same vandalist. However, when the reason of block against an user is regarded as unclear or questionable by other users, he keeps asserting that he came to his conclusions via his own investigation and inference, which he has never explained, saying "there are common things between LTA that can be pointed out even by those who are not CUs or admins, but annuncement of those resemblance will benefit the vandalist, and it is difficult to put into words." What make things more worse is that he blocks talk pages and emails completely. This starts before the dismiss and went on for so long that now no one is left in JAUCP to accuse this problem. It is obvious from the fact that User:Muttley threatened to block User:Rhubella_Marie in JAUCP; he thinks of the rights of admin(especially block) as just a way of achieving his purposes.

Under no circumstances is this attitude toward communities allowed, is it? I do not doubt that there exists an LTA that tries to attack User:Muttley, other users, or the whole JAUCP community(or even whole communities), but User:Muttley have done harm no less than that. This is a serious problem if the LTA is trying to destroy JAUCP community by letting admins block non-vandalist users via involving them into the block of sock puppets.

About my profiles. I am not a vandalist he tries to catch, nor a sock puppet user. I know it is hard to prove this, but I have a way of proving that this account in UnMeta and the account User:.旻 are identical. From the history of the page User:.旻 you can see an SNS account. That will be enough evidence for the identity.

Really hard part of this is showing that I do not have any sock puppet, but I can give you a kind of evidence that I am not the vandalist: my age at the time the vandalism starts(which User:Muttley firmly asserts) is the same as those who are 7-th grade (This can be sort of proved, but it means I have to show my personal information, which I am willing to do ;) ).

If such a really threatening community-crashing vandalist exist and use many sock puppets with different styles and characters, how a 7-th grade kid does it?

Me, myself is an important clue that User:Muttley blocks non-vandalist users by mistake(or it could be intentionally).

Lastly, the reason of decrease the number of access to JAUCP is partly due to User:Muttley. His abnormally aggressive attitude, which his behavior in UnMeta shows, destroyed the JAUCP community. It is not a matter that can be solved within the JAUCP wiki, as most active users are infinitely blocked as sock puppets of LTAs. I really tried not to attack this user, but it is not a matter of such; JAUCP is dying. --Akizora (talk) 18:27, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I understood the situation, but I cannot resolve this anymore since he and I have already had 2 conflicts. I warned all users who came to complain about this user that only Carlb should solve this thing but he is incommunicado. I suggest claiming such a problem in UnMeta's disagreement. I have my hands tied. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 3 279 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 16:56, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind reply. Sorry for bothering you. I understand that you are really weary of listening complaints like these.
User:Carlb rarely appears, and according to User:Muttley, he has contact with Carlb, and he can watch the raw log of the JAUCP's website itself(not the logs of MediaWiki).
(Here is the translation of the last two paragraph of the user page of Muttley)
In addition, Carlb was kind enough to allow me to watch raw logs. Since the raw logs are recorded by IP instead of account name, it has numerous browsing logs as well as edit logs, and Uni-code characters like Japanese are all URL-encoded, it is much more demanding than scanning CU information. Thus I am unwilling to watch them. But I put my attention especially on edit filters.
I get acquainted with some Wikipedians and I will keep in touch.
If the above statement is true, Carlb is on his side and ignoring the community; there are no JAUCP-policy that allows any user to watch such logs. Plus, Muttley claims that he has sent information of LTA he is always talking about. Considering the fact that Carlb is not good at Japanese, you ought to have been aware of the situation of current JAUCP.
Continuing discussions here does not produce any improvements; but it has come to the stage where someone has to execute some kind of strong authority. --Akizora (talk) 18:27, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
In fact, in addition to being very tired, I am very depressed because I am in the current epicenter of the pandemic and it has had very negative effects on my sleep schedules when quarantining. I thank you for your concern. Another thing, I sent Carlb another email yesterday about this open topic. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 3 279 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 15:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
JAUCP seems to have been liberated from Muttley's oppression. Thank you for all!
I think that the vandalism that was suppressed by Muttley's indiscriminate carpet-bombing will increase in activity. The future of JAUCP depends on whether we can somehow suppress this and get back to a situation where users can post without worry. --法っておいて (talk)

Completly Crazy LTA Going on in JAUCP

User: rxy, who has been given important position in the JAWIKI continues to harass JAUCP. He has revealed himself to have Asperger's syndrome and cannot be countered by mentally healthy users. He already invaded here, and don't be fooled by his self-made performances.--Ougimachi Grossia (talk) 14:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

I am grateful for the warning, in the case of this user he will be treated like any vandal and will be blocked. In addition, if it is not inconvenient I would like to address this issue here since this user is the cause of all the problems besides the abuses of the local administration. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 3 279 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 15:38, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
I know about Crazy LTA in JAUCP. The name is Muttley. He atacks everyone because him personality.
By the way,I know very interesting informations.

扇町グロシア(Ohgimachi Grosia He did not use this spell.But People using English cannot read Kanji.So I use the alphabet.)
Lemmingdead said Uncommons account is fake. 扇町グロシア said Ougimachi Grossia is fake. Be careful.
Muttley said they are LTA(Long Term Abuse(r). Muttley said Rxy is LTA. And Fake扇町グロシア-Ohgimachi Grosia(it isn't mean Ohgi) said Rxy is LTA.You know Muttley is using many account for get more power. Rxy has many power in WikiMedia.Rxy is Steward in Wikimedia. Muttley wants same power(He sometime said he is Wikipedian.
So he must think wikimedia admin is great status).--2400:2410:C1C0:5600:556C:7EEE:C5A:CF27 01:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Add information.--2400:2410:C1C0:5600:556C:7EEE:C5A:CF27 01:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)--2400:2410:C1C0:5600:556C:7EEE:C5A:CF27 01:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

About Muttley

Muttley always says "If I say reason to user block,LTA can get Advantageous position. So I can't reason about block." It means he can block everyone if he has a reason or has not,if he can explain reason or not. So Muttley got dictatorship. Why Muttley can block 扇町グロシア? If block admin,you must you must make a motion to dismiss. But Muttley did not.--2400:2410:C1C0:5600:689C:95F3:8545:902A 02:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Note

He's going so far as doxing someone's phone number, claiming it as rxy's. Beware, his next move is to ask for recovery of his full permissions. That's how he's earned permissions. What a classic :P--The Pioneer (talk) 14:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

Currently, there is an overwhelming shortage of managers. Bureaucrats are also absent. I will recommend if it is difficult to choose the right person. Better yet, please give me a bureaucrat. Please consider.--240F:3C:385D:1:A15A:68FA:4668:BB83 03:53, 19 May 2020 (UTC)(peacementhol)

You are ip user.--2400:2410:C1C0:5600:C552:AE6F:EE72:E9CB 04:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
On which wiki? Else, any request to Ahmed03 will be denied to any UnMeta wiki Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 3 279 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 11:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, this is the Japanese version of Uncyclopedia.
I am the admin of this wiki. In the absence of bureaucrats, a lot of vandalism has occurred. Thank you for your consideration.--240F:3C:385D:1:A15A:68FA:4668:BB83 11:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)(peacementhol)
Sorry for the question, but as a wiki administrator, you can't reverse these problems? I think the main problem brought up here is the mismanagement for abuse of power by Muttley. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 3 279 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 16:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
(PS:): I sent an email to Carlb but I can't guarantee that he'll fix it quickly. He has given little concern to UnMeta and it is possible that he responds directly on the wiki. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 3 279 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 17:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello. understood. I don't have that ability. In Japan, I just got up in the morning. It seems that I too lacked composure. Discussion is currently taking place in the Japanese version. I will discuss who will become a bureaucrat in the future. Thank you very much.--240F:3C:385D:1:A15A:68FA:4668:BB83 20:09, 19 May 2020 (UTC) This IP is all mine.--Peacementhol (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

After That

It is not a good idea to write something more here, but please let me do so.

As is the case with this forum, too, there is someone who tries to make out a user 'rxy' (a steward of Wikipedia) as a long term abuser and propagandizes that in a lot of wikis. Most obvious is this: [1]

This is just a naive guess of mine, but perhaps Muttley had some contact from that anti-rxy(which can be inferred from this), believed his truth-looking assertion and thus Muttley made LTA:XYZ (XYZ means RXY: [2], [3], [4]) to start blocking lots of users. --Akizora (talk) 09:01, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I understand and the chaos that this generated I believe that it cannot be undone since there are 2 divided wikis. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 3 279 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 00:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)